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| INTRODUCTION |
| Eric: Hi everyone, and welcome back to TurkishClass101.com. This is Beginner Season 1 Lesson 14 - How Bad is Turkish Bureaucracy? Eric Here. |
| Elif: Merhaba. I'm Elif. |
| Eric: In this lesson, you’ll learn how to register for a course at a Turkish university. The conversation takes place at a university office. |
| Elif: It's between Alice and an Office clerk. |
| Eric: The speakers are strangers, so they will use formal Turkish. Okay, let's listen to the conversation. |
| DIALOGUE |
| Alice: Merhaba, seçmeli ders kaydı yaptırmak istiyorum. |
| Görevli: Tamam. Öğrenci numaranızı alabilir miyim? |
| Alice: Buyurun. |
| Görevli: Bölümünüz ne? |
| Alice: Ekonomi. |
| Görevli: Kaçıncı sınıf? |
| Alice: Üçüncü. |
| Görevli: Hangi dersi almak istiyorsunuz? |
| Alice: Sosyolojiye Giriş. |
| Görevli: Kusura bakmayın. O ders sosyoloji öğrencileri için zorunlu. Seçmeli öğrenci kabul etmiyoruz. |
| Eric: Listen to the conversation one time slowly. |
| Alice: Merhaba, seçmeli ders kaydı yaptırmak istiyorum. |
| Görevli: Tamam. Öğrenci numaranızı alabilir miyim? |
| Alice: Buyurun. |
| Görevli: Bölümünüz ne? |
| Alice: Ekonomi. |
| Görevli: Kaçıncı sınıf? |
| Alice: Üçüncü. |
| Görevli: Hangi dersi almak istiyorsunuz? |
| Alice: Sosyolojiye Giriş. |
| Görevli: Kusura bakmayın. O ders sosyoloji öğrencileri için zorunlu. Seçmeli öğrenci kabul etmiyoruz. |
| Eric: Listen to the conversation with the English translation |
| Alice: Hello, I want to register for an elective class. |
| Office clerk: Okay. May I have your student number? |
| Alice: Here you go. |
| Office clerk: What's your major? |
| Alice: Economics. |
| Office clerk: Which year? |
| Alice: Third. |
| Office clerk: Which lesson would you like to take? |
| Alice: Introduction to Sociology. |
| Office clerk: My apologies. That class is compulsory for sociology students. We don't accept students who want to take it as an elective. |
| POST CONVERSATION BANTER |
| Eric: Elif, could you tell us something about the post-graduate education in Turkey? |
| Elif: A graduate student has many options to choose from in Turkey: master's degrees with or without a thesis, PhD programs, post-doctorate studies and so on. |
| Eric: How do students usually apply for those? |
| Elif: Applications are made to universities individually, usually during the spring semester. |
| Eric: Is it difficult to get in? |
| Elif: There are standardized tests whose scores are necessary for applications, such as the TOEFL for English-based programs. Also, all universities hold their own exams and interviews for their graduate programs. |
| Eric: Once you get into a university, how does it work? |
| Elif: After acceptance, students receive general education for the first year of their master's, then they take specialized classes to help them write their thesis, if they choose to write one. |
| Eric: Do many graduate students continue studying? |
| Elif: Not so many, it’s been estimated that only 7% of undergraduates continue to study. Usually political science, engineering and business are considered the top faculties for further education. |
| Eric: What’s the Turkish for “to go to graduate school”? |
| Elif: yüksek lisans yapmak |
| Eric: Okay, now onto the vocab. |
| VOCAB LIST |
| Eric: Let’s take a look at the vocabulary from this lesson. The first word is.. |
| Elif: seçmeli [natural native speed] |
| Eric: elective |
| Elif: seçmeli[slowly - broken down by syllable] |
| Elif: seçmeli [natural native speed] |
| Eric: Next we have.. |
| Elif: ders [natural native speed] |
| Eric: class |
| Elif: ders[slowly - broken down by syllable] |
| Elif: ders [natural native speed] |
| Eric: Next we have.. |
| Elif: bölüm [natural native speed] |
| Eric: major |
| Elif: bölüm[slowly - broken down by syllable] |
| Elif: bölüm [natural native speed] |
| Eric: Next we have.. |
| Elif: ekonomi [natural native speed] |
| Eric: economics |
| Elif: ekonomi[slowly - broken down by syllable] |
| Elif: ekonomi [natural native speed] |
| Eric: Next we have.. |
| Elif: sosyoloji [natural native speed] |
| Eric: sociology |
| Elif: sosyoloji[slowly - broken down by syllable] |
| Elif: sosyoloji [natural native speed] |
| Eric: Next we have.. |
| Elif: giriş [natural native speed] |
| Eric: introduction |
| Elif: giriş[slowly - broken down by syllable] |
| Elif: giriş [natural native speed] |
| Eric: Next we have.. |
| Elif: zorunlu [natural native speed] |
| Eric: compulsory |
| Elif: zorunlu[slowly - broken down by syllable] |
| Elif: zorunlu [natural native speed] |
| Eric: And last.. |
| Elif: kabul etmek [natural native speed] |
| Eric: to admit, to accept, to approve, to acknowledge, to affiliate, to receive (contextual meaning) |
| Elif: kabul etmek[slowly - broken down by syllable] |
| Elif: kabul etmek [natural native speed] |
| KEY VOCAB AND PHRASES |
| Eric: Let's have a closer look at the usage of some of the words and phrases from this lesson. The first word is.. |
| Elif: bölüm |
| Eric: meaning "major" |
| Elif: In the dialogue we had Bölümünüz, meaning "your major" and which is the form of bölüm followed by the second person plural suffix to make the word polite for second person singular. |
| Eric: Its usage isn't limited to official university contexts. |
| Elif: Turkish people usually ask for your major if they happen to learn you're a university student, although the informal form bölümün might be substituted for bölümünüz |
| Eric: Can you give us an example using this word? |
| Elif: Sure. For example, you can say.. Ali'nin bölümü ne, vallahi bilmiyorum. |
| Eric: ..which means "I swear I have no idea what Ali's department is." |
| Elif: In situations where you’re required to explain your academic background, pay attention if you're asked Fakülteniz ne? |
| Eric: which means "What's your department?" Okay, what's the next word? |
| Elif: hangi |
| Eric: meaning "which". This is a question word and it's commonly paired with nouns in question sentences. |
| Elif: In the dialogue hangi is paired with ders, meaning "class," |
| Eric: so the phrase means "which class." |
| Elif: Pairing hangi with a noun or adding a personalization suffix, like in hanginiz |
| Eric: meaning "which one of you," |
| Elif: broadens hangi's usage. If the object of the question is physically present or can be pointed at, it's more common to use hangisi meaning "which one" instead of hangi plus a noun. |
| Eric: Can you give us an example using this word? |
| Elif: Sure. For example, you can say.. Hangi köpek mamasını yememiş? |
| Eric: .. which means "Which dog hasn't eaten its food?" Okay, what's the next pair of words? |
| Elif: seçmeli and zorunlu |
| Eric: meaning "elective” and “compulsory" |
| Elif: Seçmeli meaning "elective" is derived from seçmek meaning "to choose” by adding the -li suffix, while zorunlu is zorunluluk meaning "necessity" minus the -luk suffix. |
| Eric: These two adjectives are antonyms. |
| Elif: They are primarily used in academic environments and can be found in many combinations, such as çoktan seçmeli |
| Eric:meaning "multiple choice test" |
| Elif: another one is zorunlu eğitim |
| Eric: “compulsory education”. Can you give us an example using both words? |
| Elif: Sure. For example, you can say.. 1. (birinci) sınıfta hep zorunlu, 4. (dördüncü) sınıfta hep seçmeli ders alacak. |
| Eric: .. which means "She'll be taking just compulsory classes in the 1st year and elective ones in the 4th year." Okay, now onto the lesson focus. |
Lesson focus |
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| Eric: In this lesson, you'll learn how to register for a course at a Turkish university. Let’s start by looking at how to ask about majors. |
| Elif: In the dialogue we already saw the sentence Bölümünüz ne? |
| Eric: meaning “What's your major?” What could be an answer to this, Elif? |
| Elif: Bölümüm Ekonomi. |
| Eric: meaning “I'm majoring in Economics.” |
| Elif: Benim meaning “my” has been omitted from this sentence, so the original sentence would be: Benim bölümüm Ekonomi. In the dialogue, Alice just says Ekonomi. |
| Eric: Let’s focus now on some question words. |
| Elif: In Bölümünüz ne? we can see ne which means “what”, other question words are nere? |
| Eric: “where?” |
| Elif: ne zaman? |
| Eric: “when?” |
| Elif: kim? |
| Eric: "who?" |
| Elif:Kaçıncı? |
| Eric: "which?" Please give us an example with the last one. |
| Elif: Kaçıncı sınıfsınız? |
| Eric: “Which year are you in?” |
| Elif: Kaçıncı when paired with sınıf, meaning “year,” the question means “Which year are you in?” Unlike “which“ in English, kaçıncı is used only in a numerical context in Turkish. |
| Eric: What would the answer sound like? |
| Elif: Depending on the year you are in, it can change, for example, Birinci sınıfım. |
| Eric: “I’m a first-year student” |
| Elif: For the following years, ikinci sınıf, üçüncü sınıf, dördüncü sınıf |
| Eric: respectively referring to “second, third and fourth year student.” What is the Turkish for the most important Majors? |
| Elif: Here are some, Siyaset Bilimi |
| Eric: “Political Science” |
| Elif: İşletme |
| Eric: “Management” |
| Elif: Hukuk |
| Eric: “Law.” Listeners you’ll find a complete list in the lesson notes! Now let’s take a look at how to create adjectives. |
| Elif: We have already seen the two adjectives seçmeli and zorunlu. You can create new adjectives by adding the suffix -li, or -lu for vowel harmony, to most nouns. |
| Eric: Can you give us some examples? |
| Elif: From güneş, which means “sun” you can get güneş-li, |
| Eric: meaning “sunny” |
| Elif: From nem, which means “humidity” you can get nem-li, |
| Eric: meaning “humid” |
| Elif: From tuz, which means “salt” you can get tuz-lu, |
| Eric: which means “salty.” Ok, let’s wrap up this lesson with a couple of sample sentences that will be useful when you’re registering for a course and which show the rules we just studied. |
| Elif: Zorunlu derslerin hepsini alamazsınız. |
| Eric: "You can not register for all of your compulsory classes." |
| Elif: Hangi bölümü istiyormuş? |
| Eric: "Which department does he want?" |
Outro |
| Eric: Okay, that’s all for this lesson. Thank you for listening, everyone, and we’ll see you next time! Bye! |
| Elif: Hoşçakalın. |
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