Hi Listeners! Is there a place in Istanbul that you would like to visit?

Niazi Darwish merhaba,

Third part:

Compound Place Names (Tamlama): For place names like "Zeytinburnu" and "Yerebatan Sarnıcı," which are compound names (tamlama), the "n" buffer letter is used. The genitive case suffix (-ın, -in) in the compound requires "n" as the buffer letter before adding the possessive or directional suffix.

Examples: "Zeytinburnu'na" (to Zeytinburnu), "Yerebatan Sarnıcı'na" (to the Basilica Cistern).

So, in summary, the choice between "n" and "y" as a buffer letter before the suffix in Turkish place names depends on whether the place name is a single word, a compound noun, or a well-established form, and whether it ends with a vowel or not.

Hope this helps!

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Niazi Darwish merhaba,

Second part:

Compound Place Names: When a place name is a compound noun made up of two or more words, you use "n" as a buffer letter between the compound and the possessive or directional suffix due to the genitive case suffix (-ın, -in) in the compound.

Examples: "Taşucu'nun" (of Taşucu), "Kırklareli'ne" (to Kırklareli), "Adapazarı'nda" (in Adapazarı).

Exception with Well-established Forms: In some cases where the genitive case suffix has become highly conventionalized, you may see the use of "y" instead of "n" as a buffer letter.

Examples: "Rumeli'yi" (to Rumeli), "Tunceli'ye" (to Tunceli).

Niazi Darwish merhaba,

Great question. It will be a long one and this text doesn't allow me to write that long. So it can be in two separate answers.

First part:

In Turkish, when adding possessive or directional suffixes to place names, the choice of whether to use "n" or "y" as a buffer letter depends on the structure of the place name. Here are the rules:

Single-word Place Names: When a place name consists of a single word and ends with a vowel, you use "y" as a buffer letter before adding the possessive or directional suffix.

Example: "Ankara'yı" (to Ankara), as in "Ankara'ya ne zaman taşındın?"

Confused about the usage of the "n" vs "y" buffer letter before the directional suffix,

Why do we say "Yerebatan Sarnıcı'na, Zeytinburnu'na" instead of Yerebatan Sarnıcı'ya, Zeytinburnu'ya"" ?

In another lesson we learned "Ankara'ya ne zaman taşındın?"

I hope you can clarify the rule.

Homayoon merhaba

Since two vowels cannot come together in Turkish, the buffer letter is added. A buffer letter consonant indicates the consonant that is added to the end of a root or stem that ends with a vowel and comes before the suffix (between two vowels) that also begins with a vowel.

Normally "y-ş-s-n", these are the buffer letters.

"k" here is an abnormality here.

Biz geldik. "k" here at the end loses its meaning of suggesting a pronoun "we". It acts as if a buffer letter. Not a real buffer letter.

In short:

Turkish has buffer letters: y,ş ,s, n

They connect 2 vowels when a suffix is added

Here "k" is a pronoun suffix of "we"

But there is no pronoun meaning anymore. (Geldikten sonra can be I, you, she/he, it, we, etc)

The pronoun suffix as if a buffer letter.

It is hard to explain some complicated rules of grammar in the comment section but I hope it is not very confusing.

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Seda

Team TurkishClass101.com

Followed by previous answer, why do you mean by k - buffer letter

Merhaba Liz

What a great question...

In Turkish, -den/dan/ten/tan can mean "after, from, off.

Geldikten is constructed like this:

Gel-di (He/she came)

k - buffer letter

ten: after that

So it means After she/he came

Hope this clarifies a little.

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Seda

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merhaba!

I was wondering which tense 'indikten' is. I understand -ten being the ablative suffix however which tense is 'indik-' and how does this come to mean after getting off. Thanks so much.

Merhaba Paul,

The correct one is Eminönü'ne but in daily language a lot of people say "Eminönü'ye" but it is a wrong usage.

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Seda

Team TurkishClass101.com

Dear Seda,

Shouldn't "Eminönü’ne nasıl giderim?" be "Eminönü’ye nasıl giderim?" I don't think it has an n but a y. Doğru mu?

Paul

Merhaba Sabrina,

Thank you for your feedback. We have some basic lessons that you can add to your learning pathway. Don't forget to check the site on a browser as well since app doesn't cover all the lessons there.

And check out our blog to learn more about the grammar which will help you with the lessons...

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Seda

Team TurkishClass101.com

This is So difficult for a beginner

As practicing my daily activities İ listen to the audio lesson using my EarPods; and the music separating the parts of the lesson REALLY hurts me ....

Hi Maria,

".... Sarayına nasıl giderim." That's the correct way to use the suffix.

Cheers,

İçten

Team TurkishClass101.com

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